Gate Check

Not to turn this into an all airline blog, but Spill liked this article on Facebook, and I read it, and had my own thoughts. As airframers, cabin interiors houses and design firms work feverishly to expand overhead luggage compartments, airlines too are addressing the problem of trying to fit an increasing load in too…

Not to turn this into an all airline blog, but Spill liked this article on Facebook, and I read it, and had my own thoughts.

As airframers, cabin interiors houses and design firms work feverishly to expand overhead luggage compartments, airlines too are addressing the problem of trying to fit an increasing load in too little space. There’s a remarkable amount of design and materials engineering ongoing to eke out that last bit of room in what used to be the hat-rack.

It’s important work throughout the aircraft, but particularly in first and business class, where road warriors need to be surgically separated from their rollaboards and upmarket leisure travellers expect more space overhead as well as underfoot.

Airbus and Boeing are each carving out centimetres of space to create bins that will fit large rollaboard bags in and on their sides. As RGN noted last year, Boeing’s 2010 Sky Interior pivot bins on its smaller 737 fuselage came years before RGN broke the news of Airbus’ pivot bin in 2013, and the details about the A320 interior were released at last year’s APEX Expo.

Indeed, Boeing trumpeted the delivery of its thousandth Sky Interior aircraft before Airbus had even delivered a single upgraded jet, and the US airframer released an updated ‘Space Bin’ product this year.

Brazilian regional jetmaker Embraer and its design partner Priestmangoode have revolutionised the overhead passenger service units and contoured the cabin ceiling in order to enlarge the overhead bins to take modern carry-on luggage.

The introduction of check baggage fees of anywhere from $25 to $50 dollars a bag means damn near everyone I know flies solely with carryon luggage, unless the trip is international.

I’m hardly a frequent flier, but even I know the standard US carryon allowance is one piece of luggage (of an appropriate size) and one “personal item” which as the article later notes is maddeningly vague. What it was intended to permit was women to carry on a piece of luggage, and their purse, or businessmen to carry on one piece, and their briefcase.  As for me, whenever I fly, I have my rollerbag, and then my old Army issue helmet bag, which serves as my combined laptop case, briefcase, lunchbox (yes, I do eat smelly Burger King in flight- hate me if you must) and portable junk drawer for odds and ends.

Here’s the thing, it would never occur to me to even think of trying to put the helmet bag in the overhead. Overhead bins are clearly designed for taking rollerbags. Jerks who try to put other things up there, or use oversized bags, deserve scorn and contempt.

As for gatechecking bags, I often find myself flying legs on regional jets that have overheads too small to accommodate the standard roller bag. And that’s fine by me. Just roll out to the jet, hand it off to the luggage guy, and keep my helmet bag with me. That’s where all the important stuff is anyway. Same as if the overhead is too crowded on a 737. I have no problems with the gate tag. Heck, I prefer it. It is easier than trying to maneuver the bag down the aisle, and then stuff it in the overhead without elbowing some innocent in the face.

The worst overhead bin experience is when troops fly on a chartered commercial airliner. Stuffing your weapons, helmet and load bearing equipment into a bin that wasn’t exactly designed with that in mind is a struggle. And that announcement that contents may have shifted? Rollerbags won’t jump out and smack you in the face, but a Kevlar helmet *always* will.

What’s the worst thing you’ve seen someone bring aboard a flight?

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  1. captainned

    Not exactly congruent to modern flight ops, but the first time I flew to the British Virgin Islands with Dad to take a bareboat charter with one of his good friends and his son of similar age to me I saw things that would peel your eyes. Back in 1979 or so, Air BVI still flew DC-3s from San Juan PR to Tortola. More than one BVI native had purchased a goat in San Juan and had it aboard the plane in the cabin. Car parts, oversize wedding gifts, you name it littered the seats and corridor. Mind you. one enters a DC-3 from the tail and, it being a tail-dragger, it’s a climb.

    Pilot (singular) hops in the back door & climbs his way to the cockpit (no curtain/door/anything between cockpit & cabin), taking no notice of the “cabin cargo”. Once he’s in his seat he turns around and asks “who’s going to be copilot for this flight?” While Dad’s USAF career did not involve stick & rudder he was still taught the fundamentals, so he hopped into the right seat.

    As we climb out of San Juan the airframe twists a bit and the back door flies open. The pilot calmly looks over his shoulder and calls back “would somebody please get that”. After a bit it became clear that the oil supply method on a DC-3 was once or twice through the motor and then flung overboard given the blue smoke trails and the oil oozing over the wing.

    The return trip from Tortola to San Juan (in the same plane) involved several high-speed taxis to clear out the local goat population. Once done, the DC-3 was so far to one end of the runway that the tail wheel was wet. After several minutes of engine run-ups and -downs, the pilot decided he had enough oomph to get off what was then a short gravel strip. I swear that at least one of the goats I first met in San Juan took the return trip with me.

    It was almost 40 years ago, but nothing can shock me on a modern airliner after that.

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  2. Shaun Evertson

    I brought an alice pack (sans frame) stuffed with 500′ of dynamic kern, webbing, harness, carabiners, chocks, etc. Also had my personal AR-15, broken into upper and lower and wrapped in a heavy duty garbage bag shoved in there. The plastic-wrapped muzzle protruded through the drawstring closure at the top of the ruck. “Tent poles,” I explained. I had a brick each of undeclared 5.56 and 9 mm and an undeclared Hi Power in my seabag, which I checked of course.

    May, 1980, ORF-ORD-DEN.

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  3. SFC Dunlap 173d RVN

    My Skydiving Rig about 2-3 times with no consistent response from either airline or security personnel. The one time an AA flight declined me having my rig in seating. When I asked why they actually said “have you ever heard of DB Cooper?” Other times after it went through x-ray theycouldn’t figure out the metallic components and when I told them (security), that it was a parachute system the response was “…oh, we were wondering what it was.”

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  4. FloridaFlyer

    I don’t even know where to start after 23 years in the airline industry. No crewmember here but after 30 years of living on an airplane, I’ve seen it all.

    Probably the live chicken in a small bag snuck on a flight from San Juan. Or maybe someone trying to bring on a bumper, yes.. a car bumper onboard. No, it would not go in the overhead and was… checked.

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  5. ultimaratioregis

    The worst thing I saw someone bring aboard? An unruly four-year old with a piercing shriek and a talent for pooping himself. On a flight from LA to Frankfurt. When he and his (about) six year old brother insisted on playing “run screaming around the inner seat island” of a 747 about seven hours into the flight, I pretended to fall asleep and stretch, which included putting my leg in the aisle. Wild Indian number one tripped on it, and wild Indian number two fell over him and knocked the wind out of himself. After their parents came and got them off the floor and took them back into their seating area, the lady across the aisle from me looked over, winked, and gave me a thumbs up.

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  6. Tarl

    One time I got on a busy flight and some guy, who was one of the first on, had folded his suit jacket and put it in the overhead bin. Then he gave me attitude when I took it out, put my carry-on in there, then put his jacket on top of it. I said, “Is this your first time on a plane or something? I guarantee you every single bin is going to be jam-packed by the time we take off.” Then he huffily took it out and kept it in his lap. Whatever, dude.

    Other than that, nothing worse than the usual screaming kids.

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  7. Esli

    I was flying from Munich to Riga to cover an airfield seizure exercise. Had a computer bag filled with the tools of the OC’s trade, including radio, batteries, night vision goggles and imagery of the airfield. I laughed when I saw the xray pictures because the batteries and computer cables looked exactly like C4 and det cord. The scanner freaked out. The head security lady comes over and opens my bag to physically examine it and starts cussing. Then she pulls out the NVGs and says “I hope these aren’t what I think they are.” I replied that if she thought they were night vision goggles, that’s exactly what they were. Wound up isolated in a room for ten minutes and then wiped for explosives before being released to fly. Of course there were about eight of us all flying with the same kind of gear but I was the only one with the treatment.

    Another guy on a different trip (to Hawaii) got there and found that he’d shipped his gear with a load of hand grenade simulators, which we then had to consume during that exercise so he wouldn’t ship them back.

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  8. scottthebadger

    Will the Flight Attendant microwave the BK stuff for you, or do you eat it cold?

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  9. Quartermaster

    The over head bins really weren’t made for those big roller bags people are using as carry ons these days. I have a roller bag I use as a my office on the road and it has my lap top in it. That isn’t getting checked. I hold people in contempt that are simply too cheap to check a large bag and insist on fitting it into the overhead and tasking up the space meant for 3 people’s stuff. The airlines don’t really enforce the dimension limits for carry ons and that’s a serious problem. On a flight between Minneapolis and Detroit, I ended up with my personal item and Roller bag on the floor in front of me and between my legs. A fire set in a ATC control center cause serious back ups back in September and the bins were taken by two people with bags larger than a carry on was supposed to be.

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  10. George V

    Worst one I saw was a large porcelain vase, about 3 feet tall, that a woman planned to carry home on her lap. She was sitting behind my wife and I, and to get to her window seat she had the vase in one arm and the other arm hooked over our seat backs for balance. As she moved toward the seat she slugged my wife in the head. Flight attendant tried to explain the vase had to be stowed, to which the passenger replied with something like “Caaaa?” Hmmmm, guess she’s not from around here. Vase eventually was put somewhere.
    I am waiting for a luggage designer to create a bag that fits the profile of the luggage bin, is as long as the luggage bin with notches to fit between the bracing, taking up all available room.
    George V.

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  11. nnevets

    On the way back from the NTC on a chartered 747 they announced over the PA that “crew-served weapons should be placed behind the last row of seats in each section – they will not fit in the overhead bins”. We still had M-60s then.

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  12. xbradtc

    Tower Air?

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