The Air Force’s next advanced trainer- T/X

The Northrup T-38 Talon has been the Air Force’s advanced trainer since 1961. Of the 1100 built, some 500 remain in service. It’s fair to say it’s been a highly successful design. Time moves on, however, and the requirements for training new fighter pilots call for changes in training aircraft. Supersonic speed is desirable. But…

The Northrup T-38 Talon has been the Air Force’s advanced trainer since 1961. Of the 1100 built, some 500 remain in service. It’s fair to say it’s been a highly successful design.

Time moves on, however, and the requirements for training new fighter pilots call for changes in training aircraft. Supersonic speed is desirable. But more importantly, the training of fighter pilots is less about the stick and rudder, and more about the mastery of the family of systems and avionics that form the heart of a modern combat aircraft. Accordingly, the Air Force wants an advanced trainer that has a cockpit that is as close to what the student pilot will fly in service.

The T-X program has solicited proposals from industry to field a modern aircraft and a family of ground based training systems to replace the T-38.  Northrup Grumman has teamed with Scaled Composites, Boeing has teamed with Saab, and Lockheed Martin has teamed with Korean Aerospace Industries to produce an offering. 

To date, I’ve only seen a picture of the Northrup Grumman/Scaled Composites entry.

But yesterday, both Boeing and LMT released short videos of their aircraft.  Both are single engine aircraft powered by a single F404 afterburning turbofan.

The Boeing offering is an all new design.

Lockheed, on the other hand, is offering a tailored version of the Korean T-50 Golden Eagle, an advanced trainer that LMT helped develop for Korea, and is in service there and in a few other countries.

Long time readers know I’m a huge Boeing fan, and generally loathe LMT. In this case, however, I’m leaning toward the T-50A , as it is already in service overseas, and is a well proven design. And I think it looks better. Which, as we all know, is very important.

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  1. Quartermaster

    I’ve disliked Lockheed since the C-5 fiasco. I like the looks of the Boeing offering much better, however. While it makes some sense to give a Lock Mart’s offering a fair shot, the Boeing offering may be the better trainer.
    I like the Talon, but it’s time has come and gone. It’s simply getting too worn. While I hated to see the Buckeye leave the Navy inventory, their time had come to go as well. The USAF seems to be slow on the uptake about these things. They got rid of the Tweety Bird, but held onto the Talon and it made no sense.

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  2. AFCM

    Full disclosure, was on the winning JSF team. Well, Mother Boeing got their jet painted. LM flying theirs. Not sure about the NGC entry, but…at this stage gotta bet on LM.
    I do enjoy your site!

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  3. McThag

    Boeing should change their name to Charlie Brown and Lockmart to Lucy Van Pelt.
    They do keep kicking at the football, don’t they?
    But hey, even Sony eventually got Blu-ray after losing out to, how many standards?

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  4. Jjak

    NG bought Scaled a while ago, but lets it operate quasi-independently. It’s also sort of an NG Skunk Works too.
    Boeing’s offer seems the most innovative, LM’s the lowest risk, and NG’s looks like a T-38 reboot. I’m sure the bidders, AF, DOD and Congress will screw it up somehow.

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