Now the U.S. Air Force Wants to Replace A-10s With F-16s — War Is Boring — Medium

Eventually, the U.S. Air Force wants to replace the low and slow-flying A-10 Warthog with the fast-moving F-35 stealth fighter. But it’ll take years before the troubled jet fighters are ready for duty. In the meantime, the Air Force still needs a plane for dedicated close air support missions — something the A-10 excels at. So what…

Eventually, the U.S. Air Force wants to replace the low and slow-flying A-10 Warthog with the fast-moving F-35 stealth fighter. But it’ll take years before the troubled jet fighters are ready for duty.

In the meantime, the Air Force still needs a plane for dedicated close air support missions — something the A-10 excels at. So what does the flying branch propose? Not keeping the Warthog.

Instead, the Air Force wants to replace the Warthog with a modified F-16 fighter jet — an old concept that failed to live up to expectations decades ago. The F-16s would fill in temporarily until the F-35s can take over.

We have a hard time believing it — but yes, this is a serious proposal.

via Now the U.S. Air Force Wants to Replace A-10s With F-16s — War Is Boring — Medium.

Mr. Trevithick makes most of the classic mistakes in this article about the Air Force, Close Air Support, and the A-10.

First, he quotes Pierre Sprey. Sprey’s a statistician and music producer. He’s not an aerodynamicist, or fighter pilot, or JTAC or any other sort of expert on attack aviation. For God’s sake, he still thinks the F-15 was a mistake. Sprey hasn’t been right about anything to do with airpower since he was crunching numbers for the guys that DID design the A-10.

Second, Mr. Trevithick seems to be one of those who believes the Air Force has long wanted to dispose of the A-10. They haven’t. There was great concern about its survivability in the mid 80s, and even after the Gulf War. But the Air Force has put a lot of effort into keeping the A-10 in service, and viable as close air support weapon, including updating its suite of weapons to include modern sensors and precision guided munitions. And of  course, the Air Force has been pleased with the Warthog’s perfomance in the permissive environment of Iraq and Afghanistan the last decade.

But the fact of the matter is, the Air Force is face with the sequester. That limits not only the total dollar amount available to the Air Force, which is tight but not unduly so, but also fails to give the Air Force authority to shift funds from one account to another. That inability to shift funds from one account to another is what is critically hurting the Air Force (and to an extent, the other services).

While the Air Force has a moral obligation to train for and support the current wars and engagements we find our nation in, they also have an equally strong moral obligation to prepare for future conflicts. And the fact of the matter is, the proliferation of formidable air defense assets means that the A-10’s ability to survive above the battlefield will continue to diminish. Fighter pilots have a saying- speed is life. And it’s true. Particularly in regards to avoiding surface to air missiles. In Desert Storm, four A-10s were shot down, all by relatively unsophisticated short range heatseeker SAMS. Only three F-16s were lost, in spite of larger numbers deployed, and of those three, only one was lost to a short range system. Some of that disparity in losses may simply be luck or happenstance, the methods in which the different airframes were employed. But the fact is, with proper tactics, the F-16 is far less vulnerable to low end air defense systems than the A-10. And before the entire chorus of A-10 fans chime in about the myriad survivability features built into the A-10, understand this- these were the very threats the A-10 was designed to face- shoulder launched SAMs and the SA-9/SA-13 systems. As tough as the A-10 is, the only true survivability feature is to not get hit.

Mr. Trevithick takes us back to the abortive attempt in the late 80s and early 90s to ameliorate these survivability concerns regarding the A-10 by using the F-16 in the CAS role:

The Air Force told the Pentagon and Congress that former A-10 pilots flying modified F-16s—also known as F/A-16s or simply A-16s—would be the most sensible option.

With a GPU-5 gun pod strapped on, Air Force officials believed the fast-moving F-16s could attack enemy troops just as well as A-10s — while avoiding enemy missiles. The GPU-5 contained a 30-millimeter Gatling gun derived from the Warthog’s monstrous main cannon. Both guns fired the same massive shells.

But by the time Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990, the Air Force had prevailed and begun implementing its plan. When the American-led coalition unleashed its aerial blitzkrieg against Iraq, the flying branch had F-16s with GPU-5s ready to go.

The results were a mess.

“The F-16 … did not live up to the expectations,” the RAND Corporation concluded in a study ordered by the Air Force afterwards. “The GPU-5, 30-millimeter gun pod, was tried for one day.”

The biggest problem for the add-on guns was recoil. Attached to the centerline pylon under the F-16’s fuselage by two relatively small hoops, the pods wobbled around violently as they fired the huge shells.

That’s very much true. The GPU-5 gun pod was something of a miserable failure.  And aside from the Mk1 eyeball, the F-16 didn’t have much in the way of sensors for picking out tanks and other ground targets. Of course, neither did the A-10. For that matter, the 30mm gun wasn’t really the prime tank killing weapon, for either platform. Bot the F-16 and the A-10 routinely carried four to six AGM-65D Maverick guided missiles. The standoff range of the Maverick was intended specifically to keep the attacking jet out of the range of short range missiles such as those that shot down four A-10s.

Further, Mr. Trevithick completely ignores the revolution in sensors and precision weapons over the last two decades. The vast majority of weapons used in Desert Storm were simple, unguided dumb bombs, either the Mk80 series GP bombs, or various cluster bombs. Today, it’s extremely rare in combat for a non-guided weapon to be dropped from a jet. JDAM, LGB, SDB, the options are ever increasing for the JTAC. Further, the introduction of ground launched precision weapons, such as guided rockets and artillery, and even mortar shells are likely to reduce the need for close air support as we’ve seen it used in the permissive environments of the last decade and a half of war.

F-16s now regularly lob all sorts of guided missiles and bombs at hostile targets. But today’s much improved version—lovingly referred to as Vipers—still don’t have anything that can match the Warthog’s devastating gun.

And after a series of upgrades, A-10s now carry the exact same precision weapons as the Vipers.

Well, while there IS something to be said for the psychological impact of the Warthog’s gun, in terms of terminal ballistics against troops, there’s not really much difference between the Warthog’s gun, and the M61 20mm Vulcan of the F-16. And if both platforms are lobbing all sorts of the same precision weapons (always, by definition, under the terminal control of the JTAC on the ground), what really is the advantage of the A-10 over the F-16 today.

To simply ignore the improvements in sensors and armaments twenty years of progress is foolish. The F-16 is a far, far more capable strike, interdiction, and Close Air Support platform than it was.

Is replacing the A-10 with the F-16 ideal? No. But given the budgetary constraints the Air Force is faced with, it is an entirely reasonable course of action.

 

 

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  1. M1A1TrkTrror

    I think the biggest problem most of us have with the decision to retire is doing so without a viable alternative. I don’t want Skyraiders giving me CAS, because this isn’t 1969, but I also don’t want nothing while I wait for a flying LCS. The F-16 is a passable alternative in light of having nothing.

    I also believe you get so much blowback on this decision because the Air Force seems to be running a smear campaign against one of the most popular aircraft to a lot of us that deployed. Use facts and reasonable explanations, as you, XBrad, routinely do, and they’d get different results.

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  2. Esli

    While I like A10s (and would say there is a large difference between M61s and GAU8), the fact is that I don’t really care what platform is above me, as long as it is there and can deliver the ordnance. By which I mean, the gun software works and the bombs actually, you know, fit inside the bomb bay…. over and above that, it should look cool while doing it, of course. And should be cost effective enough that we actually buy sufficient airframes.

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  3. Esli

    On a related topic, there is such high demand for CAS…elsewhere… right now that it has reduced CAS in support of training here in Germany to largely virtual CAS in the near term.

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  4. xbradtc

    CAS? Or interdiction?

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  5. jjak

    One additional thing the AF can do to make the F-16 a viable A-10 replacement is lots of dedicate training and workups with JTACs and ground forces. The full-time ground attack training for the A-10 is one of the keys to its effectiveness.

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  6. SFC Dunlap 173d RVN

    Let’s face it, the only communities that truly love the A-10’s are those who fly them and Army/Marine combat arms. May I add whatever is above me, I want more than less loiter time dictated by fuel, and aircraft type. This will go the way it’s going to go and I just can’t get behind doing away with the A-10. Given the USAF’s decisions in the last 15 years (or more), I’m not having a great deal of belief in their decision making process mostly when cost is the starting/end point in the process.

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  7. KragCulloden

    Disappointing post. Apples to apples for Desert Storm, the Harrier loss rate per 1000 sorties was 1.4, the A-10 was .69 – both aircraft flying essentially the same types of missions that no other aircraft can closely compare to.

    Speed is life was shown to be bullshit in Vietnam, and ever after as we ditched high supersonic aircraft for a fleet of strike aircraft that rarely break 1.5, or are even capable of it.

    Speed is life also shown to be bullshit in Desert Storm with the Brit’s Tornados – their staggering losses showed speed is of little to no defense, rather attack profile is the key.

    The A-10C upgrade gives the A-10 the ability to deliver PGMs outside the threat envelope as well as an F-16 or any other tactical striker, while still retaining the “the gun” and hardened construction for when it goes low. That hardended construction does make a difference, without doubt. See the latest report on the F-35 to see the disaster it is in regards to cascading failures from simple gun rounds. Only the A-10 was designed with low-altitude survivability as a key parameter, and that is partly expressed in the loss rates from Desert Storm (lower loss rates than both the Strike Eagles and Harriers).

    Again, however, the Desert Storm comparisons, or even Iraq in 2003, are now rather meaningless as the -C upgrade lets it fight high when necessary. It no longer is required to go low to do the job.

    Finally, training and mindset matter. An A-10 driver is a close supporter. Period. It is as close as the Air Force gets to a Marine aviator mentality. Removing the A-10 will remove that mindset from the Air Force, and i have no doubt that is no small reason why so many in the Air Force want it gone.

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  8. KragCulloden

    Here is what an aircraft looks like that is not designed to take a hit (even shrapnel) and keep going. Yet this is supposed to replace the A-10?

    “Live-fire test and evaluation confirmed that the fuel tank system that fills the wings and surrounds the engine is at significant risk of catastrophic fire and explosion in combat. The DOT&E report explained that the live-fire tests “demonstrated the expected cascading damage vulnerability to fuel ingestion, fuel and hydraulic fire, and hydraulic ram events.” This means that if an F-35 is hit by gun or missile projectiles-even fragments-in any of the multiple fuel tanks throughout the plane, there’s a likelihood of catastrophic failure. The F-35 design attempts to mitigate these problems by reducing the amount of fire-sustaining oxygen in the fuel tanks’ explosive vapor spaces, but the On-Board Inert Gas Generation System (OBIGGS) remains unable to eliminate enough oxygen during dives, and may require additional post-production modfication, even after its recent redesign. Further, if the pilot needs to dump fuel for emergency landings, that creates a fire problem as well because the fuel doesn’t fully eject; instead it “collects in the area between the flaperons and the aircraft structure and runs inboard toward the Integrated Power Package exhaust outlet, creating a potential fire hazard.” The 270 volt electrical system in the F-35—unprecedented in a fighter aircraft—also elevates fire risk because such high voltages increase the likelihood of strong sparks from wires damaged by maintenance mistakes or even minor combat hits.”

    http://www.pogo.org/our-work/straus-military-reform-project/weapons/2015/not-ready-for-prime-time.html

    Feel free to ignore any POGO-added opinions, the DOT&E report is damning enough by itself.

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  9. Esli

    Well, I am not quibbling about the tactical task. Could make for a doctrinal debate though. Technically I am not sure that the current mission is really either one. If I remember, I will pose the question to our USAF CAS trainer next Tuesday. He is a BUFF pilot but responsible for training all the JTACS.

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  10. Jeff Gauch

    The key point that everyone in this debate is missing is that the A-10 isn’t being replaced by the F-16 or F-35, it’s been replaced by precision guided weapons – both air and ground launched. JDAMS really dont care what plane they’re dropped off of, so why spend the money supporting the A-10 when literally every other warplane in service can do the job just as well? The vaunted gun is irrelevant because the air defense environment will soon guarantee that any plane lining up on a strafing run will have “generate a smoking crater” as the finale.

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  11. Quartermaster

    The USAF really does want to get rid of the Warthog. That is simply a fact of life. They have never liked the CAS role and have shown that since Korea.

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  12. Quartermaster

    The AD environment is changing to become more lethal. In the long run, which is already on the near horizon, the CAS mission will become impossible.

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  13. Jeff Gauch

    Not really. The advances in PGM allow us to perform the CAS mission while keeping the manned platform outside the engagement envelope of the enemy’s AD network. But it does mean the days of lining up for a treetop level strafing run are numbered, if not over.

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  14. timactual

    Precision Guided Munitions are not the solution to all problems, even if they are transformational. Someone, on the ground or in the air, has to have a clear line of sight to the target in order to lase it. That means the target has a clear line of sight right back.

    The PGM itself also needs a clear line of sight long enough to make any necessary adjustments to its trajectory. This will dictate the flight path and speed of the aircraft. Terrain will also dictate the flight path and speed of the aircraft.
    The aircraft may be capable of supersonic flight, but it can’t use it. The F-16 or F-35 is faster than the A-10, but most of that speed is unusable. Also, the faster the aircraft flies, the higher it must fly. Speed may be life, but altitude is not.

    “And if both platforms are lobbing all sorts of the same precision weapons (always, by definition, under the terminal control of the JTAC on the ground), what really is the advantage of the A-10 over the F-16 today.”

    The assumption is that there will always be a JTAC available to acquire and designate the target. Not a good assumption. What then?

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