Open Carry and Starbucks

So, the CEO of Starbucks published a letter last night requesting patrons to not open carry weapons into their stores or outside seating areas. For these reasons, today we are respectfully requesting that customers no longer bring firearms into our stores or outdoor seating areas—even in states where “open carry” is permitted—unless they are authorized…

So, the CEO of Starbucks published a letter last night requesting patrons to not open carry weapons into their stores or outside seating areas.

For these reasons, today we are respectfully requesting that customers no longer bring firearms into our stores or outdoor seating areas—even in states where “open carry” is permitted—unless they are authorized law enforcement personnel.

Some gun-control advocates are cheering this as a victory. Many pro-Second Amendment folks are condemning Starbucks and vowing to withdraw their patronage.

Me? I find myself in agreement with both John at The Castle and John E. at the Mothership

Most importantly, I appreciate this part of the letter:

I would like to clarify two points. First, this is a request and not an outright ban. Why? Because we want to give responsible gun owners the chance to respect our request—and also because enforcing a ban would potentially require our partners to confront armed customers, and that is not a role I am comfortable asking Starbucks partners to take on. Second, we know we cannot satisfy everyone. For those who oppose “open carry,” we believe the legislative and policy-making process is the proper arena for this debate, not our stores. For those who champion “open carry,” please respect that Starbucks stores are places where everyone should feel relaxed and comfortable. The presence of a weapon in our stores is unsettling and upsetting for many of our customers.

I appreciate that they are making a request of me, not publishing an edict.  The letter treats me with respect, and so with respect I shall treat them.  Starbucks has long made there policy a simple one- compliance with state and local laws. And in effect, it still is that. They’re just asking  to not be made the centerpiece of a political struggle they didn’t ask to participate in.

I like Starbucks. I love a frosty Venti Mocha Frappachino on a hot summer day, and I enjoy sitting in their cool, comfortable stores enjoying free wifi and chatting with passersby and some of the regulars. So I’ll continue my occasional patronage of them.

  1. David Navarre

    They burn their coffee beans to ensure they taste the same nationwide, which is a taste I don’t enjoy. They are, however, one of the more responsible employers in the country and I like their stores. Since they put in that explanatory paragraph (which I doubt I’d have seen without your blog), this will have no effect on whether I patronize Starbucks.

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  2. LC Aggie Sith

    Starbucks has long made there policy a simple one- compliance with state and local laws.

    Uh, should be “THEIR”. You’re welcome 😉

    So many peeps in the blogosphere are decrying this move, and yet it was in part brought about by those who would shout about their rights to open carry instead of just exercising their right. They dragged the company into the debate which the company had studiously avoided. I am in support of the CEO. They are there to sell you coffee. End of story.

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  3. Krag

    I can understand the outcry because it directly feeds the myth that guns are dangerous. Guns scare some folks, so keep them out of my store. Well, lots of things scare people, including other people, will Starbucks be moved to action on each complaint – of course not. Just this one, because guns are evil and scary regardless of what the constitution says. Its pathetic.

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  4. agiledog

    Starbucks is a great place to overpay for a mediocre cup of coffee.

    As for their request, they are asking everyone to not bring guns into their stores – another gun-free zone now. Another reason to avoid it.

    Where I live, there is no “open carry” – only concealed carry (or law enforcement). So nobody knew whether I had a gun or not. But now they are asking me to not bring it at all; not ‘don’t bring “open carry”‘, but ‘don’t bring guns at all’. So they don’t care anymore what state or local laws says, like they use to. Bowing to Leftist pressure.

    Yes, it is a request, not a ban. I request that they go back to all the crunchy granola-head, hairy armpit, berkenstoc wearing hippies in Seattle and stay there.

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  5. Quartermaster

    I don’t drink coffee, but I encourage people to stay away because of their attitude on much of the leftist agenda, not just guns. They are particularly strong when come to support of the sodomite agenda, and have told Christians to simply go elsewhere. Starbucks has been totally disrespectful on that count. They are wildly overpriced as well.

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  6. Stormy

    Gee. I was thinking, concealed carry would be a good compromise. I’m packing, you don’t know it. I’m comfortable, you’re comfortable. Since the odds I’ll need to reveal the weapon in a coffee shop are exceptionally small, then the only situation where you’ll know I’m packing is if a bad character ruins the coffee date. At which point, I suspect we’ll also find ourselves in agreement that the now revealed weapon is darned handy addition to the equation. Problem solved, peace and harmony for all. Well, almost all; no effort to make the bad guy comfortable will be extended.

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  7. NavyDavy

    Starbucks: Bleeding heart liberals. Not just Anti Guns. Pro Gay Marriage. Pro Obama Care. Anti Smoking. Anti Union (OK I’ll give them that one). Anti God messages on their cups. I’ll stay with my instant.

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  8. Casey Tompkins

    It’s nice to see a civil request for the die-hards on both sides to take their infighting elsewhere has met such a warm reception here… :-/

    But, like John D., I guess I’m a squish. Heh.

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